interview with Radio Nederland Lleonart Mario Felix, Baptist pastor Taguayabón, speaking Juan Wilfredo Soto when traveling on their own to a hospital.
Lleonart .- On the morning of Thursday, I was accompanying a family member in the cancer hospital in Santa Clara, and there is a time when I go out with my family on the street and then goes from outside the hospital John Wilfred, he was riding in what we call a bike Cuba taxi and headed to the hospital where he was to be served, another hospital, not the cancer where I was. When he'd currency, stopped the march of the bike is about taxi and tells me very agitated and obviously very sore, that he had suffered for two minutes of beating very strong in the Santa Clara park, that police officers had beaten and that really hurt especially the back because he was beaten with what we call "batons" which are a kind of sticks of the police, he was very sore and then ran toward the hospital seeking help. I unfortunately could not accompany him to the hospital and today I weigh a lot, because I was accompanying a family, but he requested at least call her friends and family and told them he was headed to the hospital to go in and help. I did nothing further, I have a Twitter account in which I write directly from my phone, only for very urgent cases as was the case. Possibly the first mention of John Wilfred, if you'll notice, it might be the first reference but I was far from imagining that this would result in the beating death of John Wilfredo
AP .- The information we receive is quite confusing, there is talk that he is detained, the detention time is Witnesses reported seeing a beating, does this have happened at the time of the arrest and then was taken to hospital or moved after she had been detained since the police station? ML .-
I would not know if he came directly from the park or the police. I do what I can say is that he was moving himself in this bike-taxi, alone, was under no custody or anything like that, he would not say whether the park had been taken to a police station is quite possible because there is a station near the park, is likely, but I could not give details of whether it came directly from the park or the police. I which has been in the police station because I find it logical that they left free at the moment, all I can say is that what he referred me is a few minutes before had been the victim of the beating in the park.
I would not know if he came directly from the park or the police. I do what I can say is that he was moving himself in this bike-taxi, alone, was under no custody or anything like that, he would not say whether the park had been taken to a police station is quite possible because there is a station near the park, is likely, but I could not give details of whether it came directly from the park or the police. I which has been in the police station because I find it logical that they left free at the moment, all I can say is that what he referred me is a few minutes before had been the victim of the beating in the park.
AP .- You should be aware also that there was a referral from a doctor who claims to have ruled out signs of violence and death have been attributed to pancreatitis. In any case, you was aware of the health problems of John Wilfredo Soto? ML
.- Yes, I was well aware of the health problems of John Wilfredo Soto. Besides being his friend and spiritual leader and I am also a Baptist pastor, was very concerned about their health problems and even had a summary of the history of John Wilfredo because I was helping to try to get some medicines for his strong conditions, hypertension, heart problems, was also suffering from gout and diabetes mellitus type 2, but so far never been given anything to the pancreas. It was a sick man, but I am convinced that his death was simply promoted the beating he gave the confirmation to me that was badly beaten that he died on Saturday night.
.- Yes, I was well aware of the health problems of John Wilfredo Soto. Besides being his friend and spiritual leader and I am also a Baptist pastor, was very concerned about their health problems and even had a summary of the history of John Wilfredo because I was helping to try to get some medicines for his strong conditions, hypertension, heart problems, was also suffering from gout and diabetes mellitus type 2, but so far never been given anything to the pancreas. It was a sick man, but I am convinced that his death was simply promoted the beating he gave the confirmation to me that was badly beaten that he died on Saturday night.
AP .- You knew him and was a friend, who was John Wilfredo Soto and what type of activity? ML .-
Juan Wilfredo Soto met last year when Mr. Guillermo Fariñas was on hunger strike. My pastoral work I went to the hospital, went to visit Guillermo Fariñas very concerned about this situation, crying to have a successful end, and thank God because finally had already released 75 prisoners and Guillermo Fariñas not die in the try, as assumed. There I met John Wilfred, because every time I moved to the hospital the man was there, faithfully in the hospital trying to care for his friend Guillermo Fariñas, making a constant guard. I was very attention because this man looked very ill, very swollen legs, was evidently a very faithful friend of Guillermo Fariñas. They struck up a friendship with him and I were very impressed with how it being a sick man was as yet unaware of his friend Guillermo Fariñas. From there comes the friendship where it should, I was worried about the spiritual nature first by Juan Wilfredo by my faith, but also a concern for their physical health to the point that I had taken a copy of your story clinic to send to friends overseas pastors to send me drugs. So I can say I was very aware of their health, very unfortunate, that there is no doubt but so far in its history there was no reference to any condition of the pancreas, the heart itself, gout, diabetes, high blood pressure but to when there was nothing of the pancreas. What I find is that although John Wilfredo health was delicate, precisely because they are frail that beating was what led to his death, is the most logical.
Juan Wilfredo Soto met last year when Mr. Guillermo Fariñas was on hunger strike. My pastoral work I went to the hospital, went to visit Guillermo Fariñas very concerned about this situation, crying to have a successful end, and thank God because finally had already released 75 prisoners and Guillermo Fariñas not die in the try, as assumed. There I met John Wilfred, because every time I moved to the hospital the man was there, faithfully in the hospital trying to care for his friend Guillermo Fariñas, making a constant guard. I was very attention because this man looked very ill, very swollen legs, was evidently a very faithful friend of Guillermo Fariñas. They struck up a friendship with him and I were very impressed with how it being a sick man was as yet unaware of his friend Guillermo Fariñas. From there comes the friendship where it should, I was worried about the spiritual nature first by Juan Wilfredo by my faith, but also a concern for their physical health to the point that I had taken a copy of your story clinic to send to friends overseas pastors to send me drugs. So I can say I was very aware of their health, very unfortunate, that there is no doubt but so far in its history there was no reference to any condition of the pancreas, the heart itself, gout, diabetes, high blood pressure but to when there was nothing of the pancreas. What I find is that although John Wilfredo health was delicate, precisely because they are frail that beating was what led to his death, is the most logical.
AP .- You do not know in any case if you handed that beating those who were aware of serious health conditions suffered Juan Wilfredo Soto. Have you been told the reason for that beating in anyway? ML .-
I think, I think, which of course the agents who beat him were unaware that Juan Wilfredo had a deplorable health. Wilfredo who saw John I could not think that was so broken in health, because John Wilfredo was a big man, large, apparently safe, and maybe they based on what their eyes thought that this man could endure well beat up which are used now, because you have to say that exceptional here is that John Wilfred died but these beatings are not uncommon, they are used to give many people. Just as a pastor I have been condemning all such beatings, who check out my blog 'Cuban confessing' or my Twitter account will realize that is constantly shown concern about the violence taking place in our streets, and I believe that General Raul Castro promoted in his speech at the Sixth Party Congress when he says he will never be denied the right people to defend their revolution in the streets and squares. I understand that as he is saying that anyone who wants to beat or even kill the other in the street because they believe that are attacking the revolution, he as president is not going to deny that right, which I think is very unfair because the rulers should be to ensure law and order and not to provoke just the opposite.
I think, I think, which of course the agents who beat him were unaware that Juan Wilfredo had a deplorable health. Wilfredo who saw John I could not think that was so broken in health, because John Wilfredo was a big man, large, apparently safe, and maybe they based on what their eyes thought that this man could endure well beat up which are used now, because you have to say that exceptional here is that John Wilfred died but these beatings are not uncommon, they are used to give many people. Just as a pastor I have been condemning all such beatings, who check out my blog 'Cuban confessing' or my Twitter account will realize that is constantly shown concern about the violence taking place in our streets, and I believe that General Raul Castro promoted in his speech at the Sixth Party Congress when he says he will never be denied the right people to defend their revolution in the streets and squares. I understand that as he is saying that anyone who wants to beat or even kill the other in the street because they believe that are attacking the revolution, he as president is not going to deny that right, which I think is very unfair because the rulers should be to ensure law and order and not to provoke just the opposite.
I think the guards did as they were accustomed to do and I think that these cops did not know the health status of John Wilfred, they would not have beaten and beaten. According to the references, handcuffed him, beat him on his legs shackled and with those sticks that here in Cuba called "batons", he falls to his knees and then start hitting him very strongly on his back. I could not see that, that are references that people give me further, especially speaking at the funeral, which I can say is that John Wilfredo when passes in front of me and stops very sore, told me that severe beating. I did not think that beating would bring his death, otherwise I would have to let the family member who was accompanying me that I waited and gone with him to the hospital. Now I weigh a lot in my mind not having ridden with him on the bike-taxi but again I was in a very difficult situation because I was between my family and John Wilfredo. This man, though I was back, another in his eyes, his face, his face was totally sore. A family member who was accompanying me also heard it and was extremely shocked by this. I just yesterday talking with my family, said he had told me "I have killed" I did not remember this phrase but it seems that yes, I probably said it but the only thing I did not literally, but now I literally Wilfredo Juan was saying, "I have killed."
AP .- You also attended the funeral, "there could be more accurately know the reason for the arrest and beating, beyond that we know is part of the dissent, was very close to Fariñas but was able to know why? ML .-
Juan Wilfredo was so sore at the time of Thursday he said only me when I asked "but what that beating?" he said "because I protested and claimed my rights there in the park." At that time the priority was physical pain, and so he stops to ask that I call family and friends who enter the hospital, but does not stop to give me all the details because of the pain he had . Yesterday at the funeral many people have there what had happened. It turns out that a police officer tells John Wilfredo you have to leave the place where he was standing in the basement of the theater across the street from Santa Clara and Wilfredo Juan refuses, saying "I am a free man, this is a place public, I have to move here. " When él da esta respuesta, el policía llama a otro policía y acuden a la violencia. De sobras sé por el tiempo que llevaba conociéndolo que Juan Wilfredo tiene entre sus presupuestos la no violencia, es un hombre que estaba en contra de la violencia, por lo tanto no creo jamás que Juan Wilfredo haya sido violento contra estos agentes del orden. Él simplemente se negó a marcharse aludiendo a su libertad como ciudadano y estos hombres arremetieron contra él con violencia. Lo esposaron y lo golpearon fuertemente, sobre todo por la espalda, con esos instrumentos que nosotros llamamos “tonfas”, que son los bastones que ellos portan.
Juan Wilfredo was so sore at the time of Thursday he said only me when I asked "but what that beating?" he said "because I protested and claimed my rights there in the park." At that time the priority was physical pain, and so he stops to ask that I call family and friends who enter the hospital, but does not stop to give me all the details because of the pain he had . Yesterday at the funeral many people have there what had happened. It turns out that a police officer tells John Wilfredo you have to leave the place where he was standing in the basement of the theater across the street from Santa Clara and Wilfredo Juan refuses, saying "I am a free man, this is a place public, I have to move here. " When él da esta respuesta, el policía llama a otro policía y acuden a la violencia. De sobras sé por el tiempo que llevaba conociéndolo que Juan Wilfredo tiene entre sus presupuestos la no violencia, es un hombre que estaba en contra de la violencia, por lo tanto no creo jamás que Juan Wilfredo haya sido violento contra estos agentes del orden. Él simplemente se negó a marcharse aludiendo a su libertad como ciudadano y estos hombres arremetieron contra él con violencia. Lo esposaron y lo golpearon fuertemente, sobre todo por la espalda, con esos instrumentos que nosotros llamamos “tonfas”, que son los bastones que ellos portan.
Fuentes: Radio Nederland
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